What Naysayers are Saying; 75-112 of 112
(Part 3 of 3)
Silver Stock Report
by Jason Hommel, December 9th, 2009 Last week, I asked my
readers to tell me what it's like when they try to convince their
friends and family to buy silver and gold.
What do Your
Naysayers Say? (Why won't your friends and family listen?) http://silverstockreport.com/2009/nay-say.html
The
letters poured in. They are all very good.
The thing
that sticks out at me in this last group of letters is the
overwhelming love that my readers have for their friends and family, and
how little that love is returned by those friends and family based on the
things they say in reply, or "retort". They say they don't need gold
if so and so has gold, etc. The older people in bonds will look
down at the experience of their younger family
members trying to convince them of buying gold and silver. Or
younger family members will not respect the experience and wisdom of the
older "gold bugs" who try to convince the younger generation
to start saving. Why is there such
contempt for those family members who are trying to
help the others so selflessly? What family member has ever
tried to charge a fee for helping them out with their investments?
I, at least, can be villified as a businessman out for a profit, but with
family, it's not so.
In fact, this was one of my strongest
arguments when trying to convince my father. He KNEW that every
other investment advisor was out for a commission. But not me, his
son. He knew that I was only motivated to help him earn, make,
or keep more money in his investments, after all, I was the primary
beneficiary as an heir to his estate! He knew my motives were pure,
ie, profit driven only if he succeeded!
What also sticks out is
that many people don't have any money to invest. Of course. I
understand. Most people are in debt, or have zero net worth.
But most people can buy $20 for anything they can think of. That's
the price of one silver oz. coin. But if half the people have
nothing, the other half have everything.
Anyway, here are
the letters, with my responses in ALL CAPS, where
needed.
__________
Hi Jason, when I first started buying silver back
in 1974 I was told that I should not tell people about my hoard.
I told select people over time and they always looked at me like I was
some sort of doomsayer or conspiracy theorist. In the past twenty years or
so some people have followed me and started their own hoards while others
have looked at me like I am a wise man passing on valuable
information.
I still am guarded about who I share this
information with but when I do tell people they always act like they
wish they could do the same but just can't afford it.
Keep up the good work in your quest to educate the
masses, in the mean time I will continue to sit back with the comfort of
knowing that I will never be broke as long as I have my
hoard.
Thanx,__________ hey jason,
few can use "non sequitur" in a sentence, let alone
spell it right. that's pretty good :-) check this out:
i was at the in-laws for thanksgiving and overheard dave ramsey, for the
first time, playing on christian television. i believe i had a
series of transient ischemic attacks! i seriously COULD NOT believe
what i was hearing. this guy hates gold with a
passion, and is recklessly sharing his curious views with masses of
apparent believers.... like sheep led to the slaughter. here are a
few things i caught: 1. he attacked gold as a pathetic
long-term investment, stating it had only yielded a percent or 2 over the
last 150 years or so. HOWEVER, he failed to realize not a single one
of us is looking at a 1-200 year horizon. MOREOVER, he failed to
realize that, as the only true currency, the demand (and thus value) of
precious metal would be
artificially impacted by the forced replacement of it by federal reserve
notes... leading to spikes of interest as a safe harbor at times such as
these. NEVERTHELESS, as people often do when speaking out of
ignorance, he didn't realize the real truth buried in his supposedly
pejorative claim - which is that gold (and silver) have been stable over
time (unlike the dollar, which has steadily decreased in value... as we
would expect man's pathetic substitute to falter). so,
he FIRST erected and trashed a straw man. second, he failed to
appreciate that, aside from being a currency, at times such as this it can
be an investment too. and third, he completely failed to apprehend
that he just made a 1-2 century case for the stability of metal across
time, while the dollar looks like a black diamond ski
slope!!! his argument is basically repeated here: http://www.daveramsey.com/article/dont-buy-gold-sell-it/lifeandmoney_other/ 2.
his failure to distinguish the stable value of metal as money from the
episodic opportunities it presents as a simultaneous investment in
the following: he proceeded to play the old "buy low, sell high"
card, and noted that gold is at an all-time high. first, i'm not
sure this is true if inflation-adjusted numbers are used - i'm pretty sure
it's not. in any event, that statement presupposed that he is
somehow privy to the alleged fact that gold will not go higher. but
central banks becoming net buyers, followed by a billion chinese and
boatload of indians consuming the metals, seems to suggest
otherwise. further, he attacked his own "top-picking" ability when
he incidentally noted that he had a tech mutual fund post 100+% gains one
year (he was trying to show that gold's 1-2% return sucks). he went
on to say that he gave those gains back when things tanked. i'm not
sure what his overall point in all of this garbled stuff was, but the
bottom line is that he didn't get out when he could have. we who
understand metal realize that basic supply/demand commands a higher
price. yet, and i suspect you will agree, certain
artificial forces can take metal prices beyond an inherent supply/demand
based value (the intrinsic monetary value) as people segue from faith
in fiat currencies and the
pendulum swings in fear and retaliation from a life of delusion.
speculation, etc. can push the prices higher than may be
supportable otherwise... and therein lies the investment
opportunity. i certainly plan to sell some at some point, with the
expectation i can buy it back cheaper later. this always happens...
and i believe will again unless Jesus returns first. 3. he
attacked metal as currency/medium of exchange. he claimed that
precious metal is inherently worthless (and this guy's a christian?), no
better than any other metal or rock. to support this thesis, he
pointed to a remarkably small, isolated, catastrophic event that took
place before fiat currencies were popularly under attack and people
were still largely under the ether (truthfully, they mostly STILL
are). anyway, he said that nobody ran around with bags of coins
during Katrina, and therefore metal will never been used in times of
crisis. what a profoundly feeble extrapolation! the prima
facie case for this ignorance demands no further comment from
me. 4. meanwhile, he places great faith in the stock market,
with an elementary position that "certainly these companies can't be worth
only half of what they were a year ago." no apparent respect for P/E
ratios, shady bookkeeping, or the simple facts that companies are
currently improving their balance sheets by cutting expenses... which is
not sustainable long term. moreover, has he not paused to
realize that the stock market can "crash UP," as well as down.
he better be posting some amazing gains to keep pace with 1.) the
toilet-diving dollar and 2.) the forthcoming hyper-inflation. and
just wait until all the bankruptcy's catch up with the credit card
companies en masse... and that's not to mention the massive student
loan defaults that are coming and legions of people graduate with
easy-money loans that they can't repay. slay the forests and fire up
the printing presses!!!! at the end of the day, he's denominated in
a currency that john paul jackson has said will be much like the
peso. http://www.sidroth.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=8629&news_iv_ctrl=0&abbr=tv_ although
i think the "peso" comment was in the jackson hour-long show i saw on
GodTV, and not during the sid roth interview. 5. i could go
on, but to round out the discussion, he's also convinced real
estate will lead us out of the recession. whatever. if nothing
else, has he not paused to consider, and he should based on his apparent
age, that a deluge of baby boomers are presently marching straight into
nursing homes and other assisted living facilities. as
both spouses either die or go live in some institution, there will be
more single-family inventory than perhaps ever in history. who the
hell is going to buy all these homes? and why? investors won't
want them, even and rentals, because we're simply not replacing ourselves
at a pace fast enough to populate all the neighborhoods that will be empty
in 10-20 years.... UNLESS, of course, we further open the floodgates
RE: immigration. and commercial real estate is ALREADY getting
pounded like there's no tomorrow. an exception, according to
jackson, could be rural land... for those fleeing the
city. he can keep buying homes and pile into the invincible
fortune 500... i'll take the gold &
silver, thanks. that's the best i can give you... and it
was pretty disturbing coming off christian airwaves. you may
be right on kimbo. but alexander has exploded, like on keith
jardine, and imploded, like with james irvin (8 second loss... barely
enough time to ride a bull!). for the fun of it, i'll take kimbo...
he has much to prove. although this could be a career-ending loss
for alexander. __________ People say: Gold only started
paying off in the last 15 years. Stocks have been around much longer.
People say: We are just pawns in a losing game of government takes from
people. Government wins, citizens lose. People say, there are no jobs yet
government officials say there are. People And Government says, get a
job everyone should work, people say, there are no real jobs, just more
layoffs. People say why go to school and get a degree when no one is
hiring, and not even the schools can suggest where to get one. People say
what do we do. People with money say, get a job. Gold is just another
scam, people say, for soon the government will stop selling and make gold
illegal to own.. This is what some, some people say to me when I speak to,
just people, with and without jobs. With and without
careers. __________
Jason,
I have bought junk silver
coins over the years and have tried to convince my wife to buy the
same.
Her answer is that it is too high now and will likely go down.
Also, that it doesn't pay any interest like her CD's (which only pay
2-4%). Any suggestions? __________ Jay, in
response to your request below:
I have to talk to most people via
email as I am currently working in Saudi Arabia. I have won over my son on
the silver argument and my wife is neutral enough to say, "You buy what
you think is best"? Most questions center around, "What will silver buy me
at any future price compared to today's price?". I think it is a good
question and I did some research in order to at least set the stage for
what that answer might look like.
With spot silver hovering just
under $20/oz I wondered what would one troy ounce buy at $200 or
$1000/oz? Mind you it is speculation but I still think it is worth
looking at. My simple research showed that silver/oz. was about 1 USD ($1)
until about 1961. That was true going back to 1793. Anyway, the spot price
started creeping up until 1974 when it jumps to roughly $4/oz. I also
noticed that inflation went from about 1% in '61 to 11% in '74. Of course
all through out the years the dollar has been loosing "value" so that
accounts for some of the rise. I am old enough to remember the Nixon
administration playing with price freezes, but not to much success. Then
came the oil crisis and the Hunt brothers attempted manipulation (1980)
that sent spot silver way up only to crash shortly after the scam was
reported. That still didn't help inflation and/or mortgage rates. 18% was
not uncommon.
Back to my point I looked at the value of various
things in common life as they were in 1961. I decided to use this year as
my "a dollar was a dollar" since 1 USD = 1 troy oz of silver. The
average house was about $12,500 back then. My parents moved to St. Louis
County around then and that is about what they paid for a new house in a
new subdivision. This all seems reasonable to me and maybe anyone of my
generation. Ok, housing in 1974 jumps to an average of $34,900. Average
income goes up too but the jump in spot silver is "behind" the average
jump in housing and wages (inflation and other factors are pushing the
cost past what it costs to buy silver and other precious metals). Here is
my rough little chart of what i recorded and estimated prices for things
would be at $200/oz:
Year
Silver/Oz Ave. Housing Ave.
Income
Fuel/gal 1792
1.293 Build yourself?
???
Bucket of oats, ha 1961
1.033
$12,500
$5,315
$.27 (trying the theory that this what the economy would fall back to
if $1 = 1 oz silver) 1974
4.391
$34,900
$13,900
$.55 ????
200.00
$2M
$700K
$66.6 (my question was can anyone imagine paying these prices or making
this much money?)
So the question is, "If you bought silver in 1961
would it buy you more or less in the years I show above and estimate for
the future?. Let me put it another way. If silver is $20/oz today what
does that get you? I went with a gal. of milk, a loaf of bread, and a few
grocery items. So, would those same items cost $200 if silver went to
$200/oz? If that is true have you really gained anything. Now, if silver
at $200/oz or you cash in 10 one ounce coins (bought in say 2009 at
$18/oz) is that going to get you just a bag of groceries or is it going to
get you a week or a month of groceries?
This is when silver buying
today starts to make sense. If it can buy you "more" with the pre-crisis
silver then it will get your though a six month monetary crisis. If it
lasts longer then your survival depends on how much you bought and at what
price. At some point, I believe like you have pointed out, the price
climbs too fast to see any return on your money (or increased value for
what you purchased). Taking another look at housing I think this answers
the basic silver versus gold argument. That being that gold has to be for
"big" purchases. If silver were to hit $200/oz and keep going to say the
$1500/oz range then silver is going to take care of any reasonable or
average housing issue (pay off your existing mortgage). Gold, even in
1/10th oz. coins will be too high to negotiate with on day to day type
things.
There you have it. If I had to guess I would say a "new"
monetary policy would put things back to 1961 prices. Shocking but with
silver at $1/oz it provided stability for a very long time. Am I headed
down the right "argument" path or where are the holes that I should fill
or replace with different data? Thanks for your time as I expect you will
be swamped on this request.__________ I started
buying silver at 18.18 an ounce back over a year ago, when it started
going down I thought of it as a gift, everyone else saw me loosing money,
I saw it as a perfect way to lower my average cost per ounce. As it went
lower and lower I told family and friends that now was the time to buy, I
sent everyone on my email list reasons to buy silver and why silver was a
far better investment then gold. In over a year I have only convinced 5
people into buying, and one already sold out, said he would buy back on
the next drop but he never got back in, I tried telling him that he was a
fool and I was actually buying at the same time he was selling-- I have
sent my family so many emails about the countless numbers of reasons to
invest in silver that I finally got an email from my grandfather telling
me that I should cut back by about 50% , I was sending too many -- my
uncle too has complained that silver is all I talk about,, I agree I have
pushed it, but they just don’t realize the importance. When silver was at
$10 I told my dad to drop the price on his property, just to sell it cheap
and that he would make the money back ten fold as long as he got into
silver soon,, he said that he had worked too long and too hard to just
give his property away,, I tried talking my mother into taking out a home
equity loan,, didn’t work.. Im trying to educate people on silver but they
are just not open,, my uncle says im too young, I don’t know anything,,
that hurts,, but Ill have the last laugh -- Some people say they don’t
want to bother with trying to protect they’re money, I say,, isn’t it
better to have money to try and protect then no money at all??? People are
silly sometimes,, I have sent them links and told them where I buy,
I try and make it easy for them -- Right now I am working on opening
a Café’ -- The Silver Café’ -- All the art on the walls will be black and
white photos of silver in different forms -- I like your thoughts on
letting people actually touch the physical metal and I will try and
incorporate that into the concept-- I want to educate the general public
and think this will be a good way-- They come in for a Latte’ and sit down
and start reading a list of all the amazing facts on the current silver
market -- if you have any input or advise on this idea or are aware of any
beautiful photos of silver bullion please let me know,, thanks
__________ Hello, how are you going? :-) Thanks heaps for
your article about people who don't listen when we warn
them. My Dad, who lived through a currency
collapse and a war oversaes when he was younger, says to me "if it was so
precious, they wouldn;t be selling it, they'd be keeping it for
themselves. Why are they selling it and not keeping it for themselves if
you say it could save their lives one day? Why are they
taking peoples dollars for silver (and gold) if you tell me
dollars will be worthles. If dollars will be wothless then why do they
want YOUR dollars. If precious metals are so great,
then why would they want to exxhange your worthless dollars for their
precious metals?" So then I gotta admit, I get
stumped for an answer, and I just go and have a cup of tea :-) I would
love to hear your answer to this. Thanks heaps for everything, I do
appreciate it a lot :-) Kind Regards, __________
Expounding the benefits of PM
ownership/possession.
Hello Jason,
I have long been an avid reader of your SSR
and have been "all-in" on PM's since '98.
My efforts to endear friends and
rellies to the honesty of real metal have largely fallen on deaf ears
...and the common retort (from family in particular) is that "they" don't
need to worry about it ...because I've got all those
bases covered.
This, of course misses the point completely,
however I can still remember a time in MY life where I could afford such a
lassez-faire "devil-may-care" attitude also.
So to conclude, in my experience, there
appears to be a more ready acceptance of the allure of PM ownership
directly proportional to ones age...
... in
that the young'ns ...particularly IF they have a PM endowed Father, can't
concieve of the NEED to - have 'n
hold.
Thats my take anyway ...also I feel we ALL
need be fully aware that the present "market" as it is set-up, MAY still
throw a curve-ball at PM's pricing - as the understanding dawns that
"most" PM's traded are in fact PAPER ...and essentially in a crisis,
will be priced in the market-place accordingly.
In a nut-shell, price ...and value will
diverge perhaps for quite some time ...and there MAY be a tendency to
a wholesale abandonment of the metals just prior to them REALLY
proving their worth.
Regards __________ Hi
Jason As someone who enjoys numbers, economics and it's scriptural
basis, here are some perspective and observations from the UK and southern
Africa: I get the feeling that we're even more behind the US as far
as an understanding of the true role of PM's. At least the US (as
well as Australia, Canada and South Africa where I'm from) has a memory of
the role of mining in an economy. In Britain it truly is a "barbaric
relic". You can get investment gold quite readily, but because silver
attracts VAT at 15-17.5%, there is very little investment silver at
anything less than 40% over spot - although I know it's still a
bargain. There is no second hand silver left. There are few
naysayers - just a lack of comprehension. They look at me as if I
was mad. There is very little debate. This includes jewelers,
pawn brokers, bullion dealers, the Jewish community in Hatton Gardens,
antique dealers, a numismatist in the British Museum, members of LBMA,
someone selling gold to the Sino-sovereign wealth fund, and numismatics
specialists. They all adopt one of two strategies: Treating
PM's as a finished good to mark up as high as possible, or buying and
selling on gold for the cash flow without holding stock. There is no
understanding of gold/silver as money. Very few want to hold bullion
because they have memories of the 90's and fear a crashing price.
My local jeweller sold his entire stock of 200 sovereigns to my
friends and hasn't been able to rebuild his stock since. He often
offers KR's and silver to me at spot and was even was selling sovereigns
at £145 when the spot value was £172, just for the cash flow. The
reality is the general UK public are cashing in on what they perceive as
high gold prices. The jewellers are only surviving because of the business
in scrap gold, taking about 1kg of 9ct scrap a week. Many bringing
in their old jewellery are older people who are just battling to
survive. They are well dressed, but desperate for cash. They
all think gold is overpriced and ready for a crash. I am the only
person I know of who is bullish. My biggest critics are those
within leadership in my church. They see me as too fixated on money,
that it's not that important. These are mostly those who I don't
have direct relationship with - and thy don't want to discuss it with
me. Those I am friendly with are coming to respect my
understanding. I've learned to only give bite sized chunks. Any more
is too much. Many of my friends have come to invest in
gold/silver. I encourage everyone two "just buy a small piece of
gold" like a sovereign. "It's like buying a specific car. Once
you own one, you notice every other like car on the road. Just like
owning a piece of gold, you suddenly start noticing what a good investment
gold is". Once they understand gold and it's volatility, I introduce
them to silver. I realise people need a low risk entry. The
results then speak to them. Sadly I don't see enough people putting
their faith into action after being shown the scriptures. Are they
waiting for this to be preached from the pulpit? Most see scriptures
on gold and silver as not being literal meaning. I find it easier
convincing unsaved people than saved people about the merits of PMs.
When asked where I leaned this, I've happy to point to the bible. I
came across your newsletter much later which affirms what I'd leaned in my
bible. I asked my Mom and step dad to buy me some gold with some of
my money in South Africa. They spoke to a financial advisor and
promptly went and opened a fixed deposit account for me. My mom was
excited with the 8% return she got until I showed her the 100% gain in
gold over the same period. I didn't show her what I made on my junior
miners. She's now bought some silver jewellery. I've also got
a few aids. If someone thinks gold/silver is expensive, I show them
an 1838 Victorian silver shilling on my key ring. This was a days
wage then as was a Roman Denarius during the time of Christ. I've
also got a whole wad of Zim dollar notes which works really well when
displayed with a sovereign (formally £1). Did you know that the
inflation really accelerated when the Zim government tried to buy every
US$ note from the black (free) market. Of course my biggest
advocates are my friends who've already bought gold and silver. I'm
should be Sacramento in early January. I'd love to look you up.
Kind regards, __________
Jason:
I have been accumulating silver for 20
years. highest paid - 14.00/oz and lowest 4.50/oz. When high I
bought a few 1oz, when low I bought a few 100 and 10oz bars. I began
giving away 25 1oz coins to my siblings on their silver wedding anniversary. I told them to
never sell unless a real need or doomsday situation arises. My
theory against Gold, and the world goes to hell, try buying a tank of gas
or loaf of bread or barter any necessity with a gold bar or coin.
Much easier to carry, use, and barter silver. Also silver will
always be needed for your health, think of purifying filters and silvedene
cream using silvers natural bug killing
activity. __________ Hi Jason! I wanted
to reply to your request because I'm seeing things from a slightly
different angle. From my perspective, it's not what people are
saying to my cries to educate themselves on precious metals, economy,
markets, political sabotage, etc. but rather what people are NOT
saying! I began investing in physical silver about a year and a
half ago, when I found out from my business mentor that things were
changing and that we should start looking into "God's money". To the
members of my business team and I, this was quite out of the ordinary to
just drop in in a meeting we were
attending. So we started doing our own research into precious metals
and economic stability and such. With us fanning our mental
resources we discovered your newsletter, along with folks like David
Morgan, Michael Maloney,
Peter Schiff, Glenn Beck, and others.
We've read their books, we've trolled through web pages, read many
articles & newsletters, watched many videos, and most of all, TOOK
ACTION by converting our dollar assets into silver.
So, the point I
am trying to make is that we are very well educated and know what we are
talking about. We are very credible within our circles of influence,
with knowledge backed up by facts, historical data, and field experts,
such as yourself.
But here is the irony in all of this. We
are consistently trying to educate our friends and family by sending them
email links, posting links on our facebook pages, talking to people in
person about the real crisis that is about to take place, and
teaching by example by buying silver ourselves. We are not "Doom and
Gloom" about it nor do we ram the information down their throats. We
simply and calmly are letting people know that they should be preparing
themselves. So while trying in all these ways to encourage the folks
we know, the biggest response I get is...NOTHING! No rebuttals, no
arguments, no discussions, no questions, not even any inquiries!
It's like I'm just being completely ignored!
The only person who
really has done anything with the information I've shared (outside of my
business team) is my brother. He has started reading some good books
and even has bought some silver himself. But even so, he has the
means to do even more if he wanted to.
The overall consensus
(at this time frame) that I have seen, is that most Americans have their
heads buried in the sand. Just like those 3 monkeys we always see,
they have their hands over their eyes, their ears, and their mouths.
It's almost as if they don't want to know the truth. They'd
rather live in their own self-delusional bubble of reality. But I
believe the most difficult part about all of it, of which I'm sure you are
quite familiar with, is that it is sad to know that many of the folks we
love and care about won't wake up until it is too late for them.
They'll still be clinging onto the side of the Titanic for survival while
our life boats will have already landed on the safe-haven shores of
prosperity.
To be honest, I wish more of my friends would
argue with me or tell me that I'm wrong. Then I could simply lay out
the facts on my side and ask them for their supporting facts. And
just like you placing a shiny new gold or silver coin in their hands to
see and feel physical evidence, so will the facts and historical precedent
also reveal to those that are open minded that there are no facts
to support any alternate outcome.
Now, I will say that there are
some people who ARE beginning to waking up to inconsistencies they are
seeing, but by and large, only a select few are really doing
anything about it.
So, I hope that helps with your information
gathering, my friend. From my perspective, the folks I know are
simply not responding at all to my attempts to help them. But I will
not give up! It's not in my nature. When things really start
going downhill, people will be desperately looking for individuals to lead
them and tell them what to do. And we will be standing together
saying, "follow me."
Thanks for taking the time to write your
newsletters and helping us stay informed, Jason. It is because of
pioneers like you, that we have been able follow the right
path.
Take care, my friend!
__________
Jason,
Several years ago I quit talking
to anybody about my precious metals belief. I
learned they never gave me credit when it performed well, but
felt free to "let me have it" on any pullback. Just recently a guy I
convinced to buy a box of Silver Eagles back at $5.70 was grousing it
wasn't "doing much". He has 400% gains and he's still not
happy! The Y-2K experience also taught me many
people are mostly lazy, but able to remember who DID prepare, in
case they needed to take flight and show up on your door step. I no longer
want to be perceived as "getting rich", even though they had the same
opportunity and never stepped up. Back when I WAS talking
about precious metals to
acquaintances, these were the deal breakers I always heard.
* Recalling somebody that knew somebody that
"lost his ass" when silver fell from $50 to $3 in the
1980's.
* Their mutual fund, IRA, 401 pension fund, etc. didn't allow
precious metal
investing.
* They always wanted to get in on a pullback,
but in reality were being dishonest with themselves, and me. It was a
line to blow me off.
* Their "professional" investment advisor
told them to never listen to amateurs. (This is really galling to
me, the professional advisors have ruined most of
them)
* They were far more interested in deploying
capital to the bubble du-jeur - tech, housing,
whatever.
* Gold and silver owners were just
perceived as weird. Proof of the media brainwashing that's
occurred the past 30 years.
I'm sure you've heard all of these too.
I learned long ago their are people who come into your life
asking little or nothing, yet offering profound positive changes. I
am eternally grateful to the few who exposed me nearly 14 years ago
to precious metals. I am fortunate to have been receptive, rather than
dismissive. As I watch many close friends suffer in this unfolding
depression I am truly sorry for what's being inflicted upon
them. They are basically good people, but until they become receptive to
changing their financial lives they are doomed to
ruin.
Thanks for your efforts, and best holiday
wishes.
__________
For over 30 years I have
tried to wake people up to all the subjects you cover in your reports and
more.
1. They don't want to hear it.
2. They
have too many othe problems to worry about in their personal lives and
can't handle anything more. (Which is true as the government keeps
piling it on heavier and faster than people can handle the changes.
I am not sure if people have been dumbed down so much as just shock
traumatized, to where they just tune everything out. Accomplishes
the same goal.)
3. From family (all except for one brother,
over the years), I am a nutjob. I am not loud or
aggressive in my "few" soft spoken comments, but trust me, I can clear a
room faster than a 100 pound skunk.
4. I have continued to
forward your newsletters to a few people, and gradually a few more are
listening, but not enough of them to stand up and fight back against what
I think is coming at us like a freight train.
Now, at age 77, there
is not much I can do but try to reach the young people in the family and a few I just seem
to meet -- I gave up believeing in coincidences a long time
ago. It is the young people who seem hungry to understand what is
happening around them. This gives me hope. I am careful in
what I say, and point them to a little history they can look up on
google, a few good web-sites, and books. They come back and almost
explode and say "No one has ever told me these things before", and they
want to know more. I caution them to question everything they
read, see or hear, and to compare as many facts as they can before coming
to any conclusions. I have found these young people to be extremely
open-minded and so smart it is scary. Given half a chance, they will
make this a better world.
God Bless,
__________
DEAR
JASON,MY BROTHER RETORTED THAT GOLD WAS A "BARBAROUS RELIC,"A COMMON REPLY FROM THE ANTIGOLD
CROWD,WHEN I ASKED HIM IF HE HAD ANY GOLD.BUT I KNEW WHAT KIND OF
INFORMATION HE HAD BEEN READING,BUT I COULD NOT CONVINCE HIM THAT IT WAS
MONEY CONSTITUTIONALY.THANKS FOR THE ARTICLES THAT YOU
WRITE.
__________
Jason:
A good number of people ( when you are talking about the mass market) can't
buy because their discretionary income is so low.
I would suggest selling very small unit silvers. Let's say $5 and 10$
lots. I
don't know how that increases production costs but remember when
people
buy cars the vast majority want to know how much per month, not the
total
value of the product.
Most people are reactive, not anticipatory. They live in a fog, day
to day.
That's the way it is.
To spark their emotions, you will have to speak to them directly.
Hold
small tupperware silver parties where they can examine the
silver
eagles, and other national coinage. Than have smaller samples to
buy.
This will require a marketing group of people- saleswomen.
There
are a lot laid off good workers out there.
Remember, logic moves people like us, but we are already in the
game.
Emotion moves the rest.
Hope this helps.
__________
A friend of
mine just a few days ago said, "I wouldn't invest in gold or silver
because it's too risky. Anything commodity-related is too
risky." I asked him if he had any dollar bills in his pocket and
explained that those are much more risky than gold or silver. :
)
__________
very simple arguement
We own both gold and silver - much more
silver than gold. It took me 5 years to convince my husband to
invest ... We had to leave our financial adviser because he talked down
gold and silver so much which in turn cemented my husband's position
(claims it is to volatile). But March 2009 I just went to
a local dealer and bought some gold and silver. I wished I had
done this 5 years ago - we would have made a nice profit.
But here is the argument:
You don't make 'any money' buy having the gold and silver sit in a
safe deposit etc. - so really you are not making money until you sell
it...then you have to 'pay' a sell commission etc. There is
not compounding on interest, no way to write a check on it, or swipe a
debt card backed by it. It is not working $$$$ so say and yes it
is volatile.
BTW - I buy from Mom's Silver. Love it. I'm buying for
those on my list silver this year!
Warmest Holiday Wishes,
Thought For The Day:
To call an Illegal Worker an "Undocumented Immigrant' is like
calling a Drug Dealer an "Undocumented Pharmacist"
__________
Hey Jason,
I have plenty nay-sayers in my family who believe the U.S. gov. will make
everything OK, happy days will be here again with ticker tape parades. I
lean toward the silver side of P.M.'s and everytime I ask them to consider
buying some silver with their paper, they always bring up 1980 and ask if
silver is such a great investment or protection, why has it not kept up
with gold? 1980 $850-ish /oz. silver $54 per oz. Gold now sits above $1100
bucks and silver can't break $20 bucks. I've fwd. your news letters to
them and the only one who responded to it was my brother- in law who said;
You listen to a man who sells silver? Of course he will tell of fairy tale
manipulations, he wants to sell his silver. He even has his mother
involved..... I am tired of telling them. The problem I have is I believe
SOME DAY, silver will out price gold per oz. and if it's next week or 15
years from now, I worry that they will be stuck with alot of useless
paper. I have enough silver in all forms,a couple bags of junk, and
enough 1/2 oz, 1 oz. rounds. & 10-50 oz. bars. Enough for my wife
and I to hopefully live OK but I worry for them. If, or when the day comes
that the dollar is history, I would feel obliged to help them out any way
I can but it irritates me that they don't bother to take the initiative
and place some paper in silver or gold. Again I really think silver will
surprise alot of people...... Anyway take care,
God bless and forgive us all
__________
Jason, A
few years ago, you week after week said we should buy a certain silver
mine stock, I bought it, and two weeks later it went down, I waited about
3 weeks and we never heard from you, So I sent you an e-mail stating why
do you week after week when a stock is going up you send us your e-mail
saying buy, but when it went down we heard nothing from you in regards to
advice, You sent me an e-mail saying, WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO COME OUT
THERE AND HOLD YOUR HAND. Now you come to us, and say, tell me what
people do when you tell them The Gospel about gold and silver, In my ten
years buying gold and silver I have told all my Friends and relatives,
only one has actually bought, I had nagged him for 5 years to buy. about a
month ago he called me and asked if I would take him to the place that I
purchase at and hold his hand so he to can say he owns gold and silver,
Yes people need someone to help them make that big step, most if not all
have never been in a coin store, a new world where they talk of old coins with different
values based on a # of reasons why the price is so high, How can the
common person talk the talk, they are scared to death to enter this new
world feeling very stupid, when it seems all their smart Friends know how
to buy. So you see (YES) you need to hold their hand all the way into the
store. Next time I will give my ideas of getting them there. Thanks
for all your advice.
__________
They just don't
understand what your saying. I'm convinced your best bet would be to sit
down with them and show them what convinced you in numbers. I saw M3 in
2000 and knew that this had never been done and it would escalate because
that is the only way to keep the party going. I didn't know why they did
it but I knew the scale at which they did it had never been
done! Few believed me ( they don't understand either) one is
interested because he sees I've been right and keeps asking questions.
He's scared that's all and he told me his wife told him to buy when I
told him to in 2003 - present but he didn't and now he's reluctant
because the price has ran up. The ones who do believe me bought stocks not
gold/silver itself. I've steered them towards the etf's SIVR, IAU and the
trusts GTU, CEF and finally Gold
mining etf's and funds, large miners and royalty companies SLW,
RGLD, GDX, PMPIX, GGN, GOLD, AEM, GG, KGC,AUY. I urge them to go to Gold
money and put gold and silver in a fireproof safe at home or another
safe place but I don't think any of them did that and I urged them to do
that first. They did like Everbanks Gold CD and a few of them
took that. Last but not least I've been talking to some who just say
( I aint got no money) and of course I drop that
conversation.
__________
Hi Jason,
I had very little difficutly in talking my
mom into buying silver. What doesn't make sense is that we argue
about every single one of the things that I give as reasons for buying
it. So at this point, who the heck knows why she's buying it.
LOL
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hi jason. i read your reports all the time.
i golf with a broker and he has no interest in gold or silver. his
comments are that "if you invested in gold in 1980 it hasn't gone up much
in 30 years." he doesn't think it will go up more. thinks it's a joke. i
was going to mention to him that if you invested in the TSX ten years ago,
you would be even today too ( i'm in Canada ). he doesn't seem to worry about US dollar
printing. he thinks it's nothing compared to the size of the US economy.
debt isn't necessarily a bad
thing, he said. as a percentage of GDP
another broker i know said that when, not if, the US starts raising
interest rates, the US dollar will strengthen and gold/silver will fall.
and just look at what happened in Dubai. that short and sweet "crisis"
caused a run the to "safe haven" of the US dollar. when the economy falls
again ( i assume it will ), another flight to "safety" of the US dollar
will happen again.
both of my broker friends don't advise their clients buy gold.
neither of them even mention silver! and these aren't beginner brokers,
these guys are managers with long service. i'm only in my 30's and the
young brokers i know say they are told to stay away from gold and silver.
all of these brokers laugh if i even bring up the subject of some
kind of gold-backed world currency, or even a
basket of currencies with gold included. i didn't think that was such a
stupid comment.
sorry for the long email. i'm sure you are busy. thanks for your
time
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Jason,
God bless
you and your yours,
It is funny that you should ask
for help. Back in early October I wrote down what I went through at work,
I sent it off to Ed Steer hopping he may read and understand my
thought/conclusion as he seemed to be in touch with those who believe in a
future confiscation. I saved it on my phone here and will send the story
on to you. ---written on monday 5oct09
@ 1300--- I just had a conversation with a couple guys at work
that made me think of ALL of the commentary I have read in the last couple
of years. It kind of put everything into perspective for me, it also
triggered a thought that may prove out to be an extension of the gold and
silver confiscation. I am young in a high paying job with many
fellow employees about to retire. My point of view about g/s is kind of
public here, enough so that I was sought out for advice. A 55 year old
about to retire asked me where he could sell his Krug's. I said "me!" of
course. A 60+ year old man not quite ready to retire sitting in ear shot
asked why I would buy at 1000+, said gold was at the top, and said its
price goes up and down so much. I told him I would rather (and do) buy
silver. Then the 60+ year old said there was so much less money to be made
in silver. I kindly told him my % gains for the year. This is when the 55
year old said "well I actually have some silver bars I need to get rid of
too". I paused and asked when he bought his gold and silver, he
said in the 70's, four of them at about $400 each. So I laid it out for
him, (and the 60 year old) this way. "If you would have put
1600 dollars in an envelope 30+ years ago to save for retirement, how much
would you have now?" " Well, $1600" " Nope,
what could you buy for $1600 30 years ago, that you can buy now for the
same $1600?" " Good point" " Good for you though that
you bought 4 oz gold. Now you have over $4000, if you cash it in.
" " That's if I can get that much. They always take a
percentage". "Wow, times have changed. They may actually pay you
a premium now." "No kidding" After asking why or if
he needed to sell his insurance he mearly stated that he found out that
the price is over a thousand and "it sounded right", now he is just trying
to find a place to sell it. I told him to keep it and remember why he
bought it in the first place ( mid 70's, inflation) I told him in my
opinion that we are in the early 70's right now, any time he reconsidered
selling to talk to me and prove that he needed to sell (as that is not his
savings for retirement, but savings for whatever), I'll prove otherwise,
or buy it from him.
It was not until lunch
time that my brain clicked, the longer the underground force keeps the
gold at $1,000 and just above, the more physical gold and silver comes out
of the true longs. Think about it. It does not matter if they make the
price go up or down in the next 6months. We (and they) all know what is to
happen to the FRN and the limited supply of a tangible asset's priced in
those FRN's. Anyone that is in a position to retire (i.e. Baby
boomers) in the next year has, themselves, experienced the 1970's gold
boom. I would assume there are many more than my friend with a few, or
more, ounces left over from then who held out just a bit too long, kept
them as a token, now see an opportunity to cash in and save a little face
turning a profit(time line excluded of course). The
lack of investment education is scary. The fate or the FRN is scary. The
retirement options available is scary. The fact that people who bought
true financial insurance for the right reason at the right time then, want
to sell NOW, because "it sounds right" is even more scary. Now
that I have written this down it seems even more plausible than an hour
ago that this is a working effort to get the remaining weak and needy
holders of the last real asset to dump physical into the market. It would
not surprise me if the agents of Russia and China are not networked into every US coin shop,
buying every 30 year old round and bar coming in as the markets are kept
depressed/inflated (sounds like the deflation/inflation argument to me).
That may be a stretch, or not, but its off the point. To the
people that you and yours have influence on, I wish you to share this
thought. Our seniors are getting their gold and silver stolen from them at
a great price, and at a great cost. Let's help educate them to "hold the
line". They were in position years ahead of the curve for the right
reason. Let's reinforce them and keep them there. We know what there FRN
savings is going to be worth to them. We know what there 201K...sorry 401K
will be worth to them. We know what Socialist Security will provide for
them. And most of all we know what their gold and silver will provide for
them.
-----
So it
has been two quite memorable months now and even more confirmation to this
idea. I only can not confirm who is selling their gold to the coin shops
(maybe YOU know someone who does!?!) After todays FRN technical breakout I
am personally a buyer as I am sure that your company and those like yours
will be for the next week or so during this buyers correction. All of our
elders and their uneducated children will see this as a perfect selling
opportunity and will do so. Any buyer who is forced to scrap and send what
they are buying from them to refineries to keep their business afloat will
only be helping the disappearance of our (public) gold and silver. Also at
fault is the "crap for gold" companies just turning a profit but your
aware of that.
Back on track now...
Yes,
people tell me to stop talking and even chuckle when I bring it up.
I have given silver as a gift with a short explanation. Nothing
further
A friend who received a buyout from jeep asked me what to
invest the dollars in, I gave him a couple fire dept. stamped ounces and
printed a couple silverseek articles ( yours included), he is yet to ask
any further questions.
I talked to an acquaintance at a high
school reunion, he told me he was a stock broker and now is a fund
manager. I told him that I am a bit of a contrarian investor myself. He
told me that he was too so I asked him if he traded silver and gold. He
said all the time, it had been very good for him in his short career. I
asked him where he stored it and who he gets it from, thinking I just hit
pay dirt and would not have to pay a premium on the metal again. ETF's was
his answer and my disappointment. I pulled my trusted three ounces out of
my pocket and let him hold them. At the end of our conversation he told me
that that was the first time he ever held a precious metal in his
hand!
I hope that I did not bore you and my thought
from a different perspective will intrigue you.
All
the best and God bless.
__________
Jason,
nobody naysays me on precious metal stocks. I've passed out many
copies of Alan
Greenspan's famous "Gold and Economic Freedom" essay, and to
date nobody has disagreed. That essay handily makes the case
for heavy metal, and also destroys not only fiat money, but also
fiat-money stimulus packages, and fiat money
bailouts.
Several coworkers, including most especially
the head of accounting, are VERY impressed with my decision to
roll my 401k money into the safe(r), audited metal holders such as
CEF, GTO, and SGOL. (I won't touch the American stocks such as GLD
or SLV.) It helps that my bosses are the children of
Holocaust survivors and several other coworkers are survivors of
various other nasty regimes (including one who sneaked through
the Cambodian killing fields to safety as a little
girl). However, even native born Americans are getting a clue
that the regime of fiat is doomed and that society could come apart
at the seams all too easily. As to possession of
physical bullion, I have no naysayers because I DON'T TALK
ABOUT THAT. In the event that I have free cash, I
plan on upping my ammo stocks first (following the logic of Kurt
Saxon). THEN I'll get silver and gold for personal
possession. But I still won't talk about it. Better for
them to think I have guns, and no gold, if things get really bad.
random thought.... do you pay your church tithes in heavy metals,
or fiat? Islamic law forbids paying zakat in fiat (hence the
move to silver dirham and gold dinar in the islamic world) but
Christendom, always late out of the gate on such things (Luke 16:8), has
been strangely silent. I wonder what my church would do if they
found a krugerrand in the offering
basket?
__________
Everyone in my family thought I was
out of my mind wene I started into gold and silver bullion in 1998 getting ready for
Y2K.And after no big melt down the few that did get coins were upset with
me. So I paid them for there coins they now would never need,even there
shipping costs.Now in 2009 they all want to buy them back at what they
sold them to me for.(Sorry! no ones home) The food I had put in storage
came in real handy as I was laidoff a few months later.We ate good for
four months tell I found another job. I won't even go into how well I did
with the 20,000 rounds of ammo in air tight ammo cans.You know the cal. no
one can find and the price thats 5X or more if you can even find it. I'm
still getting ready Gold Eagles,Silver Eagles,Junk silver(pre1965)
5.56X45,-7.62X39-45ACP.-12Ga,-lots of Mt. House freeze dry food. Hang on
folks for hell of a bumby ride.
__________
I am 77 years of
age and long retired from the Investment business (trading Canadian Government
bonds) and in the summer play golf three times a week with a
bunch of oldies that call ourselves the Geritol Group. We select numbers
to form our foursomes, so, sometimes one is left standing at the number 1
tee waiting your turn to play. For the past six or seven years (when gold
was around $300.00) I would stand there and say to all and sundry "Buy
Gold, or, in particular, gold stocks" I have done it so often over the
years that I have been laughed at as being the eternal gold bug. Well, a
couple of good friends who I know are not suffering financially have often
said to me that they love receiving their dividends, and gold doesn't pay,
although some stocks do. I have always said that there are times when it
is better to have a substantial capital gain than all the dividends in the
world, but they won't change their views. After last year's fall in the
stock market, I carefully pointed out that the only index that has
consistently improved in each of the last number of years has ! been
the gold index.
More recently I have extolled them to get into
gold, as it is still not too late, but they just scoff at the idea. Now I
have been asking them what they will do when we get the next severe
decline in the TSX and Dow indices. They say it is not going to happen. I
have tried talking about the US trillion dollar spending, now aggravated
even further by the added spending that will be required to send the
additional troops to the already lost cause in Afghanistan, but the don't want
to listen.
So be it.
Will be interesting to see what they
have to say next April when our golf season opens again.
__________
My efforts to convince people to buy physical gold and silver are
just like others. My own brother -in-law, and sister think that I am
totally and completely insane. This is despite the fact that I was
telling them to buy silver since it was betweeen 4 and 5 dollars an
ounce. I even met them at a diner one day and handed him a silver
round to keep. I said "this is worth $4.66 cents today, and it will
be worth over $100 if you keep it". They both laughed at me and
called me a dreamer. Eventhough it's worth $20, they still really
think I am insane. Their final response, in general was, Marty, please
don't ask me to buy silver or gold again. I NEVER will, but I just
want you to know that we hope you will do great with it and make a
fortune, we really do. ( my sister and brother in law are very
successful and very wealthy people, if that means anything about the way
they feel )
My best friend asked me about investments 7-8 years ago. He
ended up buying 5000 shares of PAAS for $6.00, and 5000 shares of SSRI for
$4.75. He still owns them eventhough they were much higher at one
time. Despite his success, he has steadfastly refused to buy
physical. When he came to my house, I showed him a bag of physical
quarters, a 100 ounce bar, a few coins, etc. He refuses to buy
them. I asked him again recently, and he told me, there is no way I
will ever buy actual physical silver and gold. I would never know
how to sell it, and I would feel uncomfortable keeping it in my house, or
anywhere else. He said, don't waste your time trying to convince
me, I will never buy it.
The general response from people is none. They just look at me
like I am crazy. I where this hat that says "Got Silver?".
People look at me like "what is wrong with him?". I was in an
airport and 2 ladies saw the hat. I ended up sitting right near
them, and I heard one woman say to the other about my hat, What does that
mean? The other answered, "I have no
idea."
__________
Thanks for the offer. I have
been pleading with my girl friend who I copied to buy gold and silver for
years. She bought silver when it was much lower with a third of her
cash savings. She hasn't purchased since because she believes that
she needs a large enough savings in the bank to purchase a home outright
if needed. I have told her that her dollars will steadily go down
and her silver will go up. I remember you stating you purchased your
home with silver. She looks at silver as an investment rather than a
preferable alternative to long term bank savings. I also know 3 dealers
who will purchase her silver at anytime locally. Maybe a quick response to
her regarding how easy it is to trade your silver for dollars if needed
and how holding dollars through retirement is a failed plan. By the
way, I let her hold gold and silver whenever I buy even the 100 0z bars I
bought from you. I am totally sold and buy the metals whenever my
cash exceeds my next two months demand. I admit I am a preacher and
probably bug her and scare her too much. I don't bug others who I
know don't have the money, but she does and I love her so much I don't
want her to lose it all.
__________
Why don't thy
listen?
Just came back from a family reunion; wife's family
told her they ignore my silver/gold investment pleas because I
have never been successful in life: own no home, jobs that
involve travel, etc. But if her UNCLE who deals in coins
advised it, they would buy!
They ignore me regardless of the
proof, the justification, or any argurments; I have even put
multiple silver coins in their hands
over the last year!
I do think most people will respond
to holding GOLD coins though, so
thanks for the encouragement.
I have sent your emails,
extracted portions of your emails, and sent your links. My
family maillist is about 18 families or friends.
I look forward to
your next message about what you learned from these
responses. I'm glad I met you at Rocklin coin shop, when I drove
my Panther truck there. You are a good man, Jason. Thanks
for your efforts: I own over 200 oz silver now, and gold
and palladium too. Bought another 24 oz
yesterday!
__________
Hi Jason hope the Lord is keeping you
strong in the faith and in health. In response to your
letter. A lot of people would like to buy metals but because
they of been laid off or are to far in debt they can't afford to, so they
say. Also a lot of people know nothing about the gold and silver market
and how to buy it. I do know that where I live you would have to traval
300 miles to buy gold and silver at a shop and call in advance if you want
100 oz or more. Hope this helps God
Bless
__________
Jason, I am actually having alot of success
convincing people to buy Silver. 4 of my friends have bought 10,000oz of
Silver this year alone. My opening is how much money did you
lose this week? I hear the diversification bull-shit argument. I tell
them that silver has the ultimate flexibility, they can be turned into
bullets..
You can make colloidal Silver out of it and
cure all your ailments. It is a great doorstop. I took a U.S.
Silver eagle out to the bar on Friday and was just playing with it.
It is a great pickup tool with women. You can let them fondle
it. I am going to keep a silver coin in my pocket whenever
I leave the house.
I tell people shit like there are a billion Chinese and
only 400 million silver coins available for
purchase. I say the chinese may buy 80 billion in gold with there 2
trillion or whatever the number is of U.S. notes. Howard Hunt drove the
price up to $50oz in 1980 with a measly 25,000 contracts. Humor and
sarcasm can work quite well. I also say Silver is money it is not an
investment. The rise of gold is a sign of the dollar becoming the new
kleenex or charmin.
I suspect I will have another dozen or so people buying
Silver within 60 days. My goal is to have my friends buy over 100,000 oz
by the end of next year.
__________
Hi Jason
No doubt you know what Bloomberg
just said in
The Sydney Morning Herald..
07.12.2009
but I just thought to send you a
copy as it contradicts
your teachings
and they should print your
reply
so that Bloomberg is exposed
-- They are factually
wrong?
Yet its hard for the average joe to
tell right?
Jason what is your IQ
?
and in what area?
you write so well
you are so logical
You are easy to
understand
Look forward to your general reply
to tell us all
That Bloomberg is doing some tricky
talking -- correct?
regards
Gold a 'useless asset to
own' -- Bloomberg
December 7, 2009 - 12:10PM
Gold’s best year in three decades has yet to match the returns of an
interest-bearing checking account for anyone who bought the most malleable
of metals coveted for at least 5000 years during the last peak in January
1980. JASON REPLIES: HA, FOR GOLD TO "OUTPERFORM" FROM THE PEAK IN
1980 WOULD MEAN THAT GOLD HAS OUTPERFORMED EVERYTHING SINCE 1971, 39 YEARS
AGO! SINCE GOLD HAS NOT OUTPERFORMED, THAT MEANS IT'S STILL CHEAP,
AND NOT YET AT ALL TIME INFLATION ADJUSTED HIGHS.
Investors who paid $US850 an ounce back then earned 44 per cent as gold
reached a record $US1226.56 on December 3 in London. The Standard &
Poor’s 500 stock index produced a 22-fold return with dividends
reinvested, Treasuries rose 11-fold and cash in the average US checking
account rose at least 92 per cent. On an inflation-adjusted basis, gold
investors are still 79 per cent away from getting their money back.
JASON REPLIES: NOT ALL GOLD INVESTORS BOUGHT AT THE PEAK IN
1980. MANY BOUGHT IN 1971 WHEN THEY REALIZED THAT THE GOVERNMENT WAS
PRINTING WAY TOO MUCH MONEY TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO BACK THE DOLLAR WITH
GOLD. THAT'S WHAT SMART GOLD INVESTORS TODAY ARE REALIZING. IF
YOU COUNT RETURNS FROM $35/OZ. IN 1971, GOLD INVESTORS HAVE GOTTEN A 35
FOLD RETURN ($1226 / $35 = 35), WHICH IS MORE THAN ALL OTHER
CATEGORIES. AND GOLD PRICES ARE STILL MANIPULATED LOW TODAY, LIKE
THEY WERE IN 1971!
“You give up a lot of return for the privilege
of sleeping well at night,” said James Paulsen, chief investment
strategist at Wells Capital Management in Minneapolis. JASON REPLIES: NO,
YOU ACTUALLY GAIN QUITE A BIT MORE OF RETURN, IN ADDITION TO SLEEPING
BETTER AT NIGHT! “If the world falls into an abyss, gold could be a
store of value. There is some merit in that, but you can end up holding
too much gold waiting for the world to end. FUNNY! NOBODY EVER WENT
BROKE HOLDING TOO MUCH GOLD! From my experience, the world has not
ended yet.” OH, SO YOU BUY GOLD AFTER THE WORLD ENDS?!
While gold’s nine-year bull market is attracting hedge-fund managers
John Paulson, Paul Tudor Jones and David Einhorn, strategists and fund
managers at Barclays, HSBC, SCM Advisors and Brinker Capital say
buy-and-hold investors shouldn’t always own bullion. The accumulation of
gold is part of a record $US60 billion Barclays estimates will flow into
commodities this year.
The SPDR Gold Trust, the biggest exchange-traded fund backed by
bullion, has amassed more metal than Switzerland’s central bank, spurred
by a plunging dollar and concern that the at least $US12 trillion of
government spending to lift economies out of the worst global recession
since World War II will spur inflation.
The US Mint suspended production last month of most American Eagle
coins made from precious metals because of depleted inventories. The UK’s
Royal Mint more than quadrupled production of gold coins in the third
quarter. Harrods, the London department store, began selling gold bars and
coins for the first time in October.
Those sales contributed to a 32 per cent rally in gold this year, JASON
REPLIES: AH YES, THE 1 MILLION OZ. MINTED BY THE US MINT IS DRIVING THE
GOLD PRICE WHEN THE WORLD PRODUCES 70 MILLION OZ. ANNUAL GOLD?
THAT WOULD BE THE FLEA DRIVING THE DOG! the most since 1979, beating
the 25 per cent gain in the S&P 500, with dividends reinvested, and a
2.4 per cent drop in Treasuries. Investors bought gold as the US economy,
the world’s biggest, shrank 3.8 per cent in the 12 months ended in June,
the worst performance in seven decades. Gross domestic product expanded at
a 2.8 per cent annual rate in the third quarter.
A weakening dollar also contributed to bullion’s longest winning streak
since at least 1948. The US Dollar Index, a measure against six
counterparts, dropped in six of the last eight years, including a 6.6 per
cent decline in 2009, bolstering demand for a hedge. JASON REPLIES: YES,
BUT THE DOLLAR DID NOTHING AS GOLD RALLIED FROM $438 TO OVER
$700/OZ. THE GOLD STORY IS ABOUT A SHORTAGE OF GOLD, NOT ONLY
EXCESSIVE DOLLARS GOING DOWN IN VALUE. GOLD HAS BEEN GOING UP IN ALL
MAJOR CURRENCIES SINCE 2001.
Buy-and-hold investors may not have done so well. One dollar put into a
US checking account in 1983 would be worth at least $US1.92 today, based
on annual average interest rates from Bankrate.com. The Federal Reserve
target rate from 1980 to 1982 was 8.5 per cent to 20 per cent. Banks were
paying 5 per cent on the accounts in January 1981, according to a report
in the New York Times.
The S&P 500 returned 2182 per cent from the beginning of 1980
through the end of the third quarter this year, according to data compiled
by Bloomberg. The calculation assumes dividends reinvested on a gross
basis. Treasuries returned 1089 percent through the beginning of this
month, according to Merrill Lynch’s Treasury Master Index.
JASON
REPLIES: SAYING GOLD HAS NOT DONE WELL SINCE THE 1980 TOP, AS A REASON TO
NOT BUY IT, IS A RIDICULOUS ARGUMENT. ARE THEY TRYING TO SAY
THAT THEY WOULD ONLY BUY GOLD OR RECOMMEND GOLD IF GOLD OUTPERFORMED
EVERYTHING ELSE SINCE ITS PRIOR PEAK? THEN THEY ARE REALLY SAYING
THAT GOLD WILL BE A SCREAMING BUY ONCE IT GETS TO ABOUT $7,000/OZ., THE
INFLATION ADJUSTED HIGH.
“Gold is a useless asset to hold long term,” (JASON REPLIES: USELESS
UNLESS YOU WANT TO PROTECT YOUR WEALTH, AND GET SOLID RETURNS LIKE 387%
SINCE 2001) said Charles Morris, who manages more than $US2 billion at
HSBC Global Asset Management’s Absolute Return fund in London. “I’m not a
gold bug who believes that you want to own this thing in your portfolio at
all times. We should own it when the going is good, and the going right
now is great.”
Those who bought gold when it reached a two-decade low of $US251.95 in
August 1999 have seen a 387 per cent return, more than four times the 82
per cent gain in Treasuries. An investment in the S&P 500 lost 0.4 per
cent through the end of last month. Interest on checking accounts shrank
to 0.14 per cent this year from 0.89 per cent in 1999.
Since the S&P 500 peaked in October 2007, investors in the index
lost 25 per cent, holders of Treasuries made 16 per cent and gold buyers
are up 64 per cent.
“There are people that just stayed in very conservative investments in
cash and government bonds,” said Larry Hatheway, global head of asset
allocation at UBS in London, who recommends investors hold about 1 per
cent of their assets in bullion. “Surely they would have been a lot better
off being in gold.”
Buying bullion at $US35 when US President Richard Nixon abandoned the
gold standard in 1971 would have given a 35-fold return, about the same
performance as the S&P 500.
Gold will average $US1070 next year, according to the median in a
Bloomberg survey of 19 analysts. The metal may jump to $US2000 in the next
five years, said HSBC’s Morris. Ian Henderson, manager of $US5 billion at
JPMorgan Chase, said he’s adding to his gold-related holdings because of
“the momentum behind it.” Jim Rogers, the investor who predicted the start
of the commodities rally in 1999, has said bullion will surge to at least
$US2000 over the next decade.
“Our sense is that this bubble is more at the beginning stages than on
the brink of collapse,” said Thomas Wilson, head of the institutional and
private client group at Brinker Capital.
Bloomberg THE
ARTICLE IS FULL OF FACTS, BUT THE INTERPRETATIONS ARE THE MOST FOOLISH YOU
COULD POSSIBLY SPIN. THAT'S WHY GOLD IS NO YET IN A BUBBLE.
GOLD WILL BE A BUBBLE WHEN THE AVERAGE PERSON IS GETTING A "LIAR
LOAN" FROM A GOVERNMENT SPONSORED BANK TO BUY 30 YEAR'S MORE VALUE IN GOLD
THAN THEIR ANNUAL SALARY, WITH NO MONEY DOWN, AND NO SALARY VERIFICATION,
AND THEN, LIVING OFF OF THE PROCEEDS OF THE CONSTANT 30% GAINS THAT GOLD
IS MAKING PER YEAR, SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO WORK; IT WILL BE A BUBBLE
WHEN IT WILL BE THE NEXT FORM OF MODERN SOCIALIST WELFARE, DESIGNED
SPECIFICALLY TO OVERVALUE CENTRAL BANK RESERVES, SO THEY CAN GET EXCESSIVE
VALUE FOR THE NEXT ROUND OF "GOLD BONDS" THAT THEY ISSUE. WHEN 1 OZ.
OF GOLD IS WORTH 30 YEAR'S SALARY FOR THE HIGHEST INCOME EARNING PEOPLE IN
THE WORLD, THAT'S WHEN YOU SHOULD SELL GOLD. OH, BY THE WAY,
THAT'S WHAT JUST HAPPENED TO THE HOUSING MARKET, THAT'S WHY HOUSING
IS STILL IN A BUBBLE, AND GOLD IS NOT.
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Dear Janson,
Those I know say:
1)
I really don’t know much about silver and
gold. I hear the commercials on the radio and have noticed that there are
a lot more than there were a year ago, so I guess that something’s going
on – but I really do not have the time to check it out.
2)
Recently, from a very well educated and
successful Pittsburgh lawyer – “Yes, I do recall that you suggested I buy
some silver late last year (at around $9.50/oz.) and no, I did not buy
any. I’ve been really busy”.
3)
From people who do buy rounds and Peace Dollars; when asked why
they do not buy more quantities – “We really do not want to gamble with
our Savings, College Fund, IRA’s, etc.”.
Seems the constant theme is Fear, often disguised as ‘I’m
just too busy’.
Jason, as you know I’ve communicated with you on several
occasions on this and other issues.
The Fear
factor is in their face. That’s why I sent you the Cloward-Piven
essay. Simply stated, people seem to be to preoccupied with their present,
fear filled realities. Working hard to put as much in bank as they can
before the economy gets worse.
Sadly, at some point they will realize that the results of
their hard work are a collection of worthless
paper.
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Hello, and thank you so very
much for answering my question, I do appreciate it very much! :-) I
totally get it now, it does make perfect sense what you said. Thanks heaps
once again, I really appreciate it :-) Kind Regards, from Christina
:-)
> Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009
12:23:39 -0800 > From: bibleprophesy@yahoo.com > Subject: Re:
Re- what my family say about silver
> > Your dad is
partly right. His rationale applies to 98% of all gold in existence. Since
that is already owned, it's NOT for sale. The ONLY gold for sale comes
from two sources: > > 1. Newly mined gold. Gold miners have
expenses; it's not cheap to get out of the ground. Some miners are barely
breaking even, or even losing money due to bad administrative decisions,
so they MUST sell the gold they produce, since they don't have the money
to keep it, they must raise the cash to pay for electricity, debt, wages,
capital costs, new exploration costs, etc. > > 2. Central bank selling. Central banks sell gold to try
to prop up their paper currencies; they dump gold to manipulate the gold price downwards. That is
an unsustainable supply source, and when it ends, or as it is ending,
gold prices are
rising. > > I can sell gold, because I re-purchase in bulk
from middlemen who get it from the refineries, directly from the mines, or
we buy it from guys who get it from the mint and who don't sell to the
public directly. Most all of that is either newly mined gold, or central bank gold. >
> We get a bit of gold and silver from the public selling it, but
that's only about 1/5th of our supply. Public selling is also an
unsustainable supply source, since they tend to hold more as inflation
gets worse. > > I hope that helps. >
> >
Subject: Re- what my family say about silver > > To: j@silverstockreport.com >
> Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 8:18 AM > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hello, how are you
going? :-) Thanks heaps for your article > > about people who
don't listen when we warn them. > > > > >
> > > My Dad, who lived through a currency
collapse > > and a war oversaes when he was younger, says to me
"if > > it was so precious, they wouldn;t be selling it,
they'd > > be keeping it for themselves. Why are they selling it
and > > not keeping it for themselves if you say it could
save > > their lives one day? Why are they
taking peoples > > dollars for silver (and gold)
if you tell me > > dollars will be worthles. If dollars will be
wothless then > > why do they want YOUR dollars. If precious metals are so >
> great, then why would they want to exxhange your worthless >
> dollars for their precious metals?" > > > >
> > > > So then I gotta admit, I get
stumped for an > > answer, and I just go and have a cup of
tea > > > > :-) I would love to hear your answer
to this. Thanks > > heaps for everything, I do appreciate it a
lot :-) Kind
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Generally most
people are still satisfied with the dollar but as you start to question
why they have this unfounded faith in the dollar
What you discover
is fear, fear that the dollar is going away and they have not made plans
to protect there families from destruction
As we are
commanded by GOD to do. Some statements one might hear are as simple as
how do you know it’s real (silver that is) or
How will you sell
it if you wanted to these at first appear to be simple and rational
questions but when you understand that they
Are really based
in fear then they become questions not of inquiry but of
doubt
__________
Hello, I am a big fan of
your writings and the info that you share -- I take the time to read
your full articles because I already have a strong interest in the silver
market, but I have a lot of friends and family that are not interested,
(not yet at least) -- what I think would be perfect in order to gain
the interest from none interested people would be to put all the
interesting and important information about silver into an easy to read
very short concise Paragraph, or list -- Is there any way that
you could put one together from all your research over the years --
not all the info but just what you find to be the most important and most
interesting -- I would love to be able to share something like that
with friends, and I believe they would take the time to read it and become
interested in silver -- ..
thanks
__________
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