Emails From Readers on Obama's Citizenship

(Regarding Obama's "natural born" status)

Silver Stock Report

by Jason Hommel, July 31, 2009



There is no way I could publish all the letters I have received, and it would take far too long to publish my responses to those I had time to respond to. But here is a nice selection of letters that I received after both of my reports, so that you can see the kinds of responses I'm getting.

Also, there is some very important information in here towards the beginning that will be helpful for those who may be pursuing legal action against Obama in this matter.

I've published both the good and bad. I think you can tell from the quality of the letters of those who have a problem, that they really have more problems than with just me.

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In 1758 a treatise was written by Emerich de Vattel called “The Law of Nations”. In clause 212 “Citizens and Natives” it states, "The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents [plural] who are citizens." "The Law of Nations" was widely read by the founding fathers and the definition of "natural born citizen" contained therein was the meaning commonly understood at the time our Constitution was written.

Here is the actual text of that passage:

§ 212. Citizens and natives.

The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.

*Emphasis added

And the link to the law of nations text:

http://www.constitution.org/vattel/vattel_01.htm

Just a little more evidence you can add in your letter if you choose to write a third one on the topic. I wasn’t sure if you had uncovered this gem yet so I thought I would pass it on. This text alone, being the commonly understood law at the time, seals the deal for me. Even if you ignore the part about the natives and the natural born citizens, it was understood that the FATHER passes the citizenship.

This is the first letter I’ve written to you, hopefully you find this information useful if you hadn’t already known about it. Keep up the good work, I love reading your newsletter!

God Bless,

Jesse Hildebrand

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This registration document, made available on Jan. 24, 2007, by the Fransiskus Assisi school in Jakarta, Indonesia, shows the registration of Barack Obama under the name Barry Soetoro made by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro.

Name: Barry Soetoro

Religion: Islam

Nationality: Indonesian

Here is a copy of the document: http://silverstockreport.com/images/obamas-school-record.jpg

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This was the most lucid, cogent discussion about the birth-status I have read.

I’ve read your posts for a number of months and I’ve always been interested in the treatments of silver as money and how by following the scriptural exhortations to use “sound weights and measures” is probably one of the most important things for people to adopt in their Christian way of life. This is, of course, challenging, but not impossible. There were the car dealerships that earlier this year that accepted gold for down payments. What do you think, if you had to point people to one “industry” or service sector/niche within your local community that you could use silver to buy wares with, you would recommend? I’ve been thinking about offering like-minded local Christian service businesses such as auto repair, accounting, and farm grown produce the opportunity to receive silver in lieu of federal reserve notes. Do any of your readers do similarly? Would you ever contemplate setting up a network of contacts willing to exchange services and goods for silver? I’d be interested in participating.

Anyway, thanks again. God bless.

Joe

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Jason:

I just wanted to tell you that I thought your web article on this was spot on and a very well written argument. I thought it was an outstanding analysis of the facts and the law. I also found it refreshingly objective.

I am a lawyer and a reader of your information. I was actually drawn to this issue by World Net Daily and the fact that “something” just doesn’t ring true about Obama’s handling of the issue.

One more thing: WND reports that the newspaper birth announcements were likely automatically generated by the newspapers based on the application for the certification of live birth (i.e., the newspapers automatically picked up the data generated by the State upon application for the certification). As such, the logic that the announcements prove or support the record of the birth is quite circular. The announcements prove only that someone applied to register the birth using one of the several methods available at the time. As such, the announcements do not in and of themselves prove that the child was born in Hawaii, but merely that someone filed the registration paperwork.

You may also be correct that the announcements were merely an attempt to document a US birth to convey some level of citizenship, albeit not necessarily “natural born US Citizenship” for purposes of holding the highest office in the land.

Thank you for your efforts on this. You are a true Constitutional patriot.

Todd R. Iliff

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Dear Mr. Hommel,

Thank you so much for your work on Obama's citizenship. I have been on this bandwagon since before the election. My thoughts were of his birth in Kenya. After reading your latest article, I now know that thought is of no concern. Being born in Kenya or Hawaii has no meaning if one's Father is not a U.S. citizen. It is clear that Mr. Obama cannot be President of The United States of America.

Standing with you--------.

Dave DeVaux

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Mr. Hommel,

I never would have found all that information on my own. You tied it together with a neat bow.

I had been convinced that Obamas' birth controversy was pretty much settled, but you brought out information and points I never would have found. Now, I'm no longer convinced Obama qualifies to be president.

Thank you for this information (tho' it would have been nice to win ;-D).

-Frances Williamson.

P.S. Please pray for me. I'm trying to regain my health and get a job (neither easy) so I won't lose my home.

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You need your head examined. If it turns out you've got a brain tumor consider yourself lucky: Otherwise you're certifiable.

DE

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Fabulously researched and explained. Great job and more.

David Pruitt Sr. Loan Consultant 877-627-9211 x 115

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Jason your right on the money. I wish you the best.

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Jason,

Excellent. I further read your SQuaw Valley ordeal regarding SSNs. Equally excellent. I agree with you 100% and have worked accordingly myself for many years under Bible authority and contract and I have suffered some financial hardships over the years because of this.

I would like to send you a newsletter regarding Obama and his 'Right to Rule' over Americans. Do you have a Box or address you would allow me to send to?

Thanks for good documentation of what has taken place.

MR

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me" Exodus 20:3

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But but Bill OReilly said a Hawaiian doctor produced his birth certificate--.. NOT!!! I truly believe this man is an amerikan IMPOSTER!

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I'm surprised you offer your reward in Fiat US dollars. You should offer 3 kilos of gold or maybe 10 1,000 face bags of junk 90% silver.

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Hi Jason I agree with a lot of your concerns but untill the country we live in does something about throwing Bush,Cheney, Carl Rove, Cris Cox and Henry Paulson and all the high officials at AIG, Fanny and Freddie Bank of America and Goldman Sachs in prison for doing what you want to blame Obama for, I fear we will be forced to live like slaves in the land of the free and the home of the brave. I don't see that our political people deserve anything less than what they are giving so lets work toward throwing them into the street penniles like they have done to so many others at 500,000 jobs lost each week, getting a third party with some guts going. I realy don't think that Repulicans like McCain and Palin would be of any assistance to any one. So next time you see Jesus ask him to help me get the afore mentiond a cross to hang on.

I hope silver goes up same as you, I enjoy a good rant too. I am not religous but I am spirtual and may all the blessing be good for you. I remain your friend

- KW

I bought 5 Obamas from your Mom they are very nice, I will get more when I can earn some more cash.

Stay calm and enjoy life or Ready, Aim, Fire. Thanks for the news letter and remember the big banks and the fed installed Obama just as they did Bush and Obama has no choice but to do their bidding, as a slave he will serve his Master.

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That's a step too far for me! For a nation of immigrants to suggest that new immigrants won't care as much about the country. Plain old filthy racism rearing it's ugly neo-nazi head. We've been down that road in Europe and it was painful--I hope we never head down it again.

And as for global warming being an elaborate conspiracy. I'm afraid you've completely lost the plot Jason. Joined the ranks of those who would rather choose the rantings of uninformed bigots over the scientific consensus. I believe in rationality and you are no longer being rational.

That's me unsubscribed. It's a shame because when you talk about silver you clearly know your stuff. Shame you don't stick to it.

Glyn Griffiths UK

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if he's removed from office, the question is: does it really matter who's running the show? they're all in the same luxury ocean going vessel dragging us all along behind them in our shoddy little row boats. in my humble opinion, it doesn't really matter who's steering the ship - the trip has already been mapped in detail regardless of who the captain is and we're being dragged along, like it or not. ==========

Hi, I can't believe you are "God Blessing" from your mean spirited diatribe against the smartest President we have had in a long, long time.

This is misplaced anger which would have been better served against the worst President in the history of our great country. We have TWO WARS and an economy beyond repair! You can find copies of President Obama's Birth Certificate all over the internet. Just look it up.

Lee Kendall, Former Major, USAF WW11, DFC recipient

(Sending our troops to two preemptive Wars is a crime against humanity),

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Dear Mr Hommel,

you should know how much I enjoy your silver stock report and your refreshing reflections on monetary theory and economics.

Your views on Obama, however, are a bit perplexing.

Of course, the reward will never be paid out because you will never accept any kind of proof on this matter. I doubt you would have offered a reward if there had been any chance that you would lose.

But please remember that the burden of proof is by the plaintiff, not by the defendant.

You will not accept any proof being offered that Obama is natural born. More importantly, however, no court will accept your or anybody's evidence that Obama isn't natural born.

I suggest that we get back to the topic of gold and silver - it's more interesting.

Best Regards, --------------------------------------------- J e f f r e y D a y

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jas

cool. i tried to call you now but no answer. would be fun to chat with you and get some more insights as to the sort of feedback you've been getting. you were called a racist? so opposing obama is racist? i have to support socialism or i hate black people? this is the same as people who call someone anti-semitic for criticizing the israeli military.

tt

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even funnier in this whole BS is that mccain was born in panama. BOTH of them were ineligible.

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Dear Jason---To answer one one of your questions about the many irate e-mails you received---"PUBLIC SCHOOLS"---this country is finished. The marines? HA! Awhile back a young soldier, you may recall, New I believe his name is, received a court marshall for not accepting an order to don the blue cap of the u.n. Seen any protest lately.---you most likely will not. 1984 is here and the Winston Smiths' are busy at work doing their thing---Obama's birth---

Sincerely, Peter

A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.

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Dear Jason

I have recently been getting your online silver stock report and have found it very informative. I recently read your article explaining that it is unlikely that anyone will satisfy your belief that Obama’s birth certificate does not qualify him for the Presidency. I believe you are correct, but I just wanted to point out one thing of interest that I recently stumbled upon that you might find interesting. Your article about Obama’s birth certificate had this statement: “Also, people can become US citizens at birth, by being born in the US to foreigners, via the 14th Amendment, but it would not necessarily make them a ‘natural born’ citizen either.” I just discovered that the king of Siam ( Thailand ), now 81 years old, was born in the United States . His young parents were part of the diplomatic corps of Thailand at the time. I don’t know what his status is now, but I wonder if other members of foreign embassies born here are considered U S citizens although obviously not constitutional natural-born citizens as you explained in your article.

I am also interested in buying one of your new World silver coins because of political and religious interest in the subject. On the back side of the coin, on the bottom, you have the words, “Post Change 8th is 666”. I certainly am aware of the conventional understanding of the number 666 as found in the book of Revelation, but I don’t know what you mean by “Post Change 8th….” Please explain. However, I would like to offer you an unconventional understanding of the number 666. It is no longer relevant to today or the future except that it affects relationships with the Middle East (sunni vs. shi’ah). It really has to do with the terrible schism that occurred in Islam about 662 AD that seriously impacted the integrity of the religion of Islam just as the schisms of the Eastern Orthodox and the Protestant Reformation affected Christianity. I will not try to explain or justify that statement at the present time, and I think I would have an impossible task to try to convince a Bible scholar like you of a different point of view. By the way, I am not a muslim, but I do consider Muhammad’s ministry to be an authentic message from God….however corrupted by theologians.

Finally, have you ever visited the website www.perfecteconomy.com? This website was written by an obviously brilliant fellow and he has many of the same beliefs as you about corruption, fiat money, the Federal Reserve, etc. However, his main theme has to do with interest/usury as being the real culprit. He teaches (and can mathematically prove) that interest is the cause of inflation, deflation, economic slavery, political corruption, etc., and the end result will be terminal sums of debt that cannot be paid out of the currency circulation which brings about recessions, depressions, bankruptcies, etc. He also says that gold & silver as constitutional money is correct, but that alone will not solve the problem unless we do away with the Federal Reserve, banks as we know them, and especially, unearned gain from interest which compounds debt forever. You will find his website to be large, complex, and difficult to understand due to the exalted language. Plan to camp there quite a while in order to understand it all. Most of us are exposed to a whole new paradigm of financial understanding as a result of the website. I have been examining it off and on for several months. I don’t think it negates your business or what you are trying to accomplish with precious metals as real money because you, and all of us, presently have to operate within the system that exists. But he makes the case that precious metals alone will not solve the problems in the long run.

Sincerely,

John Hursey

Wyoming

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You know, Jason, this is the kind of thing that gives gold and silver investors the reputation for wearing tin foil hats and sitting in their basements. Obama is black. You may not like this. But he is black, he was born in the US, and he is president.

He got over 50% of the vote in the election--.even being black.

So, get over it. You are making the rest of us look like goddamn fools.

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Hello Jason,

I have been a subscriber to your news letter for a couple months now and I really have learned a lot. I too am a Christian so your biblical insights ring true to me.

I am inspired by your 100,000 dollar challenge claim about Obama so much that I want to rcommend it as a news story to be covered.

I am an employee of WTVT Fox 13 in Tampa Florida. We are owned by Fox Newscorp and feature Fox news coverage and local news.

I do not know for sure if it will be picked up and aired but the news director will definatley take a look at your claim if I submitt it.

If stories are aired most times they get national coverage and shared on Fox affiliates, if they are relevant and of interest.

To consider Obamas credentials is important to us as a nation and I believe this to be a relevant story.

If selected, our news department may email or call you for an interview.

Please just notify me if you do not want me to suggest your story.

Sincerley,

Craig Wells

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get his payment information from indonesia to pay for his college, supposedly he went to Harvard on a Visa http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/occidental.asp

lol http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_did_Barrack_Obama_afford_harvard&updated=1&waNoAnsSet=1

The main thing jason is he is not american and even if we bring proof to the supreme court they will not hear it.

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As an attorney and former federal > prosecutor and someone who > is quite familiar with immigration law, I am dismayed how > some allegedly smart > and open-minded people refuse to even listen to the > "birther" argument or read > anything about it.

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you're a good man jason. i get so fatigued trying to get the message through to people. unfortunately it seems that most of them just don't want to have to deal with what's really happening. the sheep are doomed unless they finally can't take it anymore and resort to the desperate actions of our forefathers. have you noticed how brainwashed people are with regards to the idea of patriotism? as soon as you mention actions or ideas that defend our constitution - ones that are out of step with the will of the elitists - the sheep see you as a traitor. WTF is up with that? the comments i've heard from my friends when i try to talk honestly with them about what's happening. "you don't love your country" "you must be a democrat" "what, you don't support our troops?!" asinine comments - many coming from "educated" types.

what has happened to our citizens? they're mostly a bunch of walking zombies who seem to have had frontal labotomies!!! so many are completely brainwashed. when the next great depression hits, 99.9% of them still won't have a clue as to what really caused the problem. instead they'll choose to believe, as they always do, the spin doctors on the nightly news - before they flick the channel so as not to miss their mindless reality t.v. shows. sorry to rant. i'm just a tad bit frustrated or was that already pretty obvious.

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hi

why do you not file a class action lawsuit against obama, the democratic party in the US courts? it would be fun to see what the US would do in this case! they have made a mockery of their constitution! so i hope we hear you doing something good on this one

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Dear Jason,

Complements on your reward offer. The elevated level of your moral integrity is manifest in your writing. It has a powerfully saintly quality. My religious philosophy is non structured and mystical rather than structured and faith based, as I believe a life without religious conviction is vacuous indeed. "Man cannot live by bread alone".

Best wishes, Peter Gasperini

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Jason,

Please. Consider and reflect on the Proverbs of wisdom. This “birther” business is a dead end promulgated by the politically desperate, and the vitriol directed at the president is neither wise nor Christ-like. These very difficult times require as many Christian virtues as the truly faithful can muster and it’s incumbent on all that claim faith to foster his spirit with love and nourish the peace that surpasses understanding. I know that you are well intentioned, I think that you could be wise as well.

Best,

R Davis

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Jason,

Thanks for that email. I'm glad that you take a stand for what you believe and that you back it up with scripture. Keep up the good work and fight the good fight. May God bless!

-Caleb

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Run a commercial for this….. haha….. freedom of speech or do you think your commercial would get pulled

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Jason,

As soon as I received your first email on the $100,000 reward, I notified Alex Jones (through email) and gave him the details. I told him that if he was interested to let me know and I would provide your name and contact information. So far-- Nothing. I don't understand. He has been covering this subject all over the place and this would be a great way to get people's attention. And it could get your name and your message out there more too.

I'll follow up with him and see if I can get through.

Thanks for all you do,

Jon

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Jason,

This sounds a little like Whitewater to me.

Cordially,

Cladymoor

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Some don't want to see the truth no matter how it glares at them. I am a truth seeker. Politics is my hobby, and I enjoy the good the bad and the ugly of it. But all in all it is how the country is run, and truth and honor is what we really need. If you ever go into politics. I'll support you.

Thank again

Kevin

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What I don't understand is why there are so few Christians who have discernment and unity of true faith in this age of the end times. After nearly 2000 years, why is the Church still acting like children, being totally deceived by the false idols of paper money and and paying taxes to abusive Kings? God? Can you answer that one? Is it going to take another 1000 years? Can't you send just a little bit more of the Holy Spirit to help direct people to truth?

Neither do I understand, Jason, neither do I.

Perhaps the will overriding the intellect?

Terror stricken of truth, and even more so, their true motives for NOT desiring to be cognizant of it.

As always, thank you for rational thinking and reasoning. Sharing your comments and insights and your willingness to pronounce judgement where it is due.

DAVE KILPATRICK

JOB 26:3 "Declare the thing as it is"

A IS A!

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Dear Mr. Hommel,

Thank you for showing the courage to comment on the birth debate over the mysterious Mr. Obama.

This man's father wasn't even an American, and yet he struts around, lording it over us, the natural-born. My American heritage goes back at least two generations on both sides, and one branch possibly back to the Mayflower. And I am a direct descendant of a Civil War soldier, who perished in that war.

If he has nothing to hide, why doesn't he reveal his long-form birth certificate? Thinking people cannot help but ask this question: why does he refuse? And for that matter, he is concealing other records, such as his baptism certificate, college grades, etc.

I am four years older than Obama, and I have a certified copy of my long-form birth certificate, my baptismal record, my kindergarten report card, and also grades 1 through 8, and up to and including my college grades. And I am just an ordinary person. I'll show him mine if he'll show me his!

It just sticks in my craw that he is so secretive and withholding.

We will be the first country to fall apart over this issue of black and white, which manifests itself in a crippling political correctness, Those who dare to speak out are simply labeled "racist". End of conversation. National debate is dead. Free speech is dead.

The bill is coming due for importing slaves from Africa all those years ago. And our enemies around the world anticipate our demise with glee, no doubt. What nation has ever successfully integrated black and white? Yet we are trying to, with affirmative action and other attempts to multi-culture the founding white population, such as the encouragement of black-white mating and immigration from every corner of the planet. One just has to wonder what America was all about, in the first place.

And then this poseur, an unqualified arrogant son of a foreigner, insults the law enforcement of our country with a blanket statement about the "long history" of "African-Americans" and "Latinos" being stopped "disproportionately" in "this country." My jaw dropped when I read this remark. I get the feeling he hates America.

Sincerely, JS

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Mr. Hommel,

When I am audited by a governing agency, I am required to provide requested documents and in short order (i.e. proof of continuing education participation and Socialist Security card to Florida's DMV for driver license renewal).

How can the Kenyan get away with his stonewalling when I, average ordinary physician assistant, pharmacist and car driver, am required to provide reasonable documentation? If I refused to provide reasonable documentation, my family would do without and I'd have to walk to redeem my food stamps.

There ARE two Americas- that ONE point John Edwards had correct! Keep the heat on, Brother.

Rick

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Jason,

The #1 issue that nobody has thought about on OBAMA is that all genuine birth certificates from the time of his birth would be on microfilm and reproduced from such. I was born in Kansas in 1958 and when I got a copy of my certificate, it was white on black because of the microfilm retreval process. This was not changed until the early 1990s when records were then transfered to electronic media. At the time of Obama's birth , the record would have to be black ink on white paper for the microfilm process to even work properly. The (GREEN PAPER) copy that is floating around on the internet at this time cannot even be justified as an accurate depiction from the time of Obama's birth.

In summary: GIVING US AN ACCURATE REPRESENTATION IS THE ONLY WAY THAT THIS ISSUE WIL BE RESOLVED.

Thanks, Rick Call

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Birther and soldier of God

Dear Jason,

You are an idiot !!! Obama was elected, sworn in and and is the President. Hoping that your good buddy Joe can take his place is not going to happen without armed rebellion. Maybe that is your point though, huh ? That sure would help you sell more silver and gold wouldn't it ? The only problem with that scenario is that lawlessness would then be surrounding us and people who wanted all YOUR gold and silver would just take it , thank You very much !!

I want to know where were you when it was proved that we as a nation were lied to when we invaded Iraq and basically bankrupted our country? ( See Allan Greenspan's comment on the Iraq war - "Everyone knew it was always about the oil".)Where were you when the Patriot Act was approved? Where were you when Cheney wanted to send actual soldiers to a U.S. city to arrest suspected terrorists even though the FBI had been watching them for months? ( Tanks driving down a city to arrest someone - that's a great visual for you , isn't it ?) Where were you when Pres Bush first approved giving 700 billion dollars to our financial institutions with NO Strings or Oversight attached in the first place?

I find you and your kind dispicable and will gladly share this opion with everyone I come into contact with. Do us all a favor and move to Israel so you can witness the coming rapture first hand --------------------------------..

Very sincerely,

An ex newsletter reader

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Everything boils down to this: why would AKA spend millions defending lawsuits on the issue if he was natural born if all he had to do was release his long form birth certificate. I corresponded with a Professor at Rutgers who is well published and who had expressed an opinion on the birthers in an article I read and you would not believe the ignorance of this man. I mention this only because one can better understand the ignorance of those on the left on this subject if a well educated man like this can be so incredibly ignorant.

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Barack Obama’s aunt at home in Southie digs http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1188143&format=comments#CommentsArea

“Beggars can’t be choosers.”

This person could not only use the money you are offering, but is one of the few living people who could actually get the information you are wanting.

Might be worth seeking her out in a South Boston public housing unit to finally put the birth certificate issue to rest.

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You should be ashamed of yourself as a christian. You're hiding obvious racism under the the excuse of a missing birth certificate. We've all seen the birth certificate. Every paranoid conspiracy theory surrounding it has been debunked. It's time to move on. Slowly and slowly I see the christian right aligning itself with white supremacist views. It's disgusting and immoral.

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Hello Jason,

I just read your treatise on natural-born, and it was very enlightening! I already didn't believe that Obama was natural-born, but I just thought you had to be born in the country to be natural-born. I also wasn't aware that he sealed his records by executive order. Very interesting! I didn't even notice the Scripture before that stipulated a non-foreigner must be chosen for a king.

You said at the end of your article:

What I don't understand is why there are so few Christians who have discernment and unity of true faith in this age of the end times. After nearly 2000 years, why is the Church still acting like children, being totally deceived by the false idols of paper money and and paying taxes to abusive Kings? God? Can you answer that one? Is it going to take another 1000 years? Can't you send just a little bit more of the Holy Spirit to help direct people to truth?

I don't know if your question was rhetorical or not. A couple passages came to mind, and I thought I would share them with you. You may already be familiar with them.

Luk 18:6 And the Lord said, Hear what the unjust judge saith. Luk 18:7 And shall not God avenge his own elect, which cry day and night unto him, though he bear long with them? Luk 18:8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth? Luk 18:9 And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:

It seems to me Christ is suggesting there won't be many true followers when he returns!

Here is Jesus telling about the sign of his coming and the end of the world:

Mat 24:8 All these are the beginning of sorrows. Mat 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. Mat 24:10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. Mat 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

One more:

2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; In the end times (now or the very near future, I believe), many will fall away from God, not necessarily away from the Christian religion. I believe this is why the Church is acting like children (monetarily, morally, and spiritually). True followers will judge (or rule) the world and the angels.

1Co 6:1 Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? 1Co 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 1Co 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? 1Co 6:4 If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church. 1Co 6:5 I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren? 1Co 6:6 But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers. 1Co 6:7 Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded? 1Co 6:8 Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren. 1Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

No wonder people (including many in the Church) can't see to judge (discern) the things of this world!

Sincerely, Vern Spencer

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Outstanding work Mr. Hommel!

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Jason,

Grace and peace to you my friend. I enjoy reading your articles and I am glad to see that you have written about Obama's birth status. If he doesn't have anything to hide, then why did he place an executive order to keep his records safe - hmmmm--.

Anyway, I have been studying and researching about the fraudulent money and taxation system as well as how most of us are pigeon-holed into a citizen category called "Statutory Citizen" through the government schools and brain- washing from Washington, D.C. so we can become the enslaved, instead of sovereigns or "nationals".

With that said, I came across your article about your lawsuit back in 2004 concerning you not having a Social Security Number and not filling out the other so-called "required" forms for employment. I went ahead and printed out everything as I will read this as part of my study.

Have you seen this site: http://www.famguardian.org. It's a very well researched and organized site that discusses this whole issue of citizenship, taxation, etc. Here is one of there excellent books on citizenship:

http://www.famguardian.org/Subjects/LawAndGovt/Citizenship/WhyANational.pdf

Let me know your thoughts on the site.

Part of what I am wanting to do is to, in essence, change my domicile/citizenship and resign from the compelled SSN and any other "federal" benefits. This also means I will have to change me status at my current employer on ALL forms which is why I am wanting to read what you wrote on your SHAW experience.

Please keep me in prayer as I seek Gods wisdom, study and research this. The other thing I am going to do is purchase 100 oz. of silver and will probably start with "junk" silver from a local coin dealer here in Michigan.

I am still deciding how to proceed with my home (I had e-mailed you previously on that) whether I should walk away from it, have it foreclosed on or "hang in there". I will keep you posted on that.

In Him,

Patrick Whitson

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Jason,

Having read your careful and thoughtful research on the b-cert. - and noting your 'trouble' in getting a job sans les socialist numero--I'm curious, are you familiar with famguardian.org, and their "The Great IRS Hoax" book--as well as originalintent.org, with Dave Champion?

Have a blessed day and peace be within you. ~Khy'em

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Dear Jason:

Thank you so much for your report on Obama's birth. It was a real eye-opener. I hope you don't mind, but I sent your report on to Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly at Fox News because they had brought up this question again this past week. I don't know if they will try to get the information out to the people or not. Right now I don't trust that anyone in the news media is telling us the truth about anything.

The real question is whether or not our government will do anything about it. That will probably depend on "the people" and if they raise enough hell to be heard. I know that the government will not give up it's control without a fight.

I also wanted to tell you that our local dealers are out of gold and silver and they don't know when they will get more. The "people" are getting the message and have been buying up gold and silver like crazy. The one thing that scares me is the debt that Obama has created for the American people. If and when the paper money collapses, I hope you are right and that we will go back to silver as the money of choice. I believe that the printed money is not even legal according to the Constitution, but then either is the Fed or "central" government control.

May God Bless and protect you and your family.

Sincerely,

Paulette Spaay

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Sincerely,

Jason Hommel